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 <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;On Sin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Christ: &amp;quot;Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are fornication . . . murder . . . and suchlike. And concerning these I warn you, they who do such things will not attain the Kingdom of God&amp;quot; (Galatians 5:19-21). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Luther: &amp;quot;Sin boldly but believe more boldly. Let your faith be greater than your sin. . . Sin will not destroy us in the reign of the Lamb, although we were to commit fornication a thousand times in one day&amp;quot; (Letter to Melanchton, August 1, 1521, Audin p.178). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Christ: &amp;quot;And do not be drunk with wine, for in that is debauchery&amp;quot; (Eph. 5:18). &amp;quot;Keep thyself chaste&amp;quot; (I Tim. 5:22). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Luther: &amp;quot;Why do I sit soaked in wine? ... To be continent and chaste is not in me&amp;quot; (Luther&amp;#39;s diary). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;On Good Works&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Christ: &amp;quot;What will it profit, my brethren, if a man says he has faith, but does not have works? As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also&amp;quot; (James 2:14,26). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Luther: &amp;quot;He that says the Gospel requires works for salvation, I say, flat and plain, is a liar&amp;quot; (&amp;quot;able Talk, Weimer Edition, II, p.137). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;On Truth&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Christ: &amp;quot;Do not be liars against the truth. This is not the wisdom that descends from above. It is earthly, sensual, devilish&amp;quot; (James 3:1~15). &amp;quot;Do not lie to one another&amp;quot; (Col. 3:9). &amp;quot;The Lord hateth... a lying tongue... a deceitful witness that uttereth lies. . . &amp;quot;(Proverbs 6:1&amp;amp;17). &amp;quot;A thief is worse than a liar, but both of them shall inherit destruction&amp;quot; (Ecclus. 20:27). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Luther: &amp;quot;To lie in case of necessity, or for convenience, or in excuse, would not offend God, who is ready to take such lies on Himself&amp;quot; (Enserch Conference, July 17, 1540). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;On Marriage&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Christ: &amp;quot;Whosoever shall put away his wife and marry another, committeth adultery against her. And if the wife shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery&amp;quot; ~ark 10:11-12). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Luther: &amp;quot;As to divorce, it is still a moot question whether it is allowable. For my part, I prefer bigamy&amp;quot; (DeWette, Vol.2, p.459). &lt;br /&gt;
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On Free Will&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Christ: &amp;quot;Woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It were better for that man if he had not been born&amp;quot; (Matt. 26:24). &amp;quot;Let no man say when he is tempted, that he is tempted by God; for God is no tempter to evil&amp;quot; (James 1:13). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Luther: &amp;quot;Judas&amp;#39; will was the work of God; God by His almighty power moved his will as He does all that is in this world&amp;quot; (De Servo Arbitro - Against man&amp;#39;s free will). Accosted on all sides by charges of heresy, even by many of his former associates in the Protestant movement, Luther found refuge in this, the strangest of all his beliefs. No man is accountable for his actions, Luther taught, no matter how evil. Not even Judas.&amp;quot; (From the book CHRIST VS. LUTHER, edited by R. A. Short, copyright 1953 by the Bellarmine Publishing Company, Mound, Minn.) &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One is forced to ask himself the increasingly obvious question? Did Jesus Christ found a church that would deceive the world and then after 1500 years approve of over 35,000+ different and contradictory denominations which were founded by man? Are these protestant churches purified and free of error? Have the the gates of hell prevailed against the protestant experiment?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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